Nancy Schaefer on CPS... You Tube...Onsite conflict... Alamo... A Nasty business... Billy Joel Music Video... You May Be Right... I May Be Crazy

["Nancy Schaefer on CPS"; as submitted to You Tube by Amiablyme on March 13, 2009; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1HjVU-UIQU]

Bringing an ongoing discussion / conflict (from below) into the light [Nancy Schaefer, above, does appear (ouch!) to make some very good points... This appears to be a VERY complex issue!]:

1. Anonymous said... "For up to date information about alamo please go to:
http://www.tonyalamonews.com" (April 5, 2009 6:13 AM)

2. Anonymous said... "Thank you for your interest in tony alamo. It is important to get the truth about him out to the world. Too many people have destroyed their lives and their children's lives because they could not see the truth behind the falsehoods he used to control them. Please see all the latest about him and his court case which will start in May, by going to this website of accurate information.
http://www.tonyalamonews.com" (April 5, 2009 6:31 AM)

3. N.S. said... "Anonymous, Thank you for the response and link. I will check it out in a little while :)"(April 5, 2009 9:32 AM)

4. N.S. said... "Anon, Definitely a comprehensive link! Thank you again... If anyone wants to follow this issue further please go (for now) to (I will put this in the sidebar)... http://www.tonyalamonews.com" (April 5, 2009 10:56 AM)

5. Anonymous said... "If you want the truth about Tony Alamo and the fact that CPS has stolen innocent children from their parents and what this is REALLY about go and research... www.alamoministries.com
www.inquisitionupdate.org
www.spiritaullysmart.com
www.arcticbeacon.com
read the sites and watch the videos." (April 5, 2009 8:52 PM)

6. N.S. said... "Anon 8:52PM...Because everyone is entitled their opinion and "freedom of speech" I have respectfully (despite having formed some fairly solid opinions on this matter, which may well dif fer from your own) put your post and suggested links here... In all cases, however, readers are advised to follow other reader's links at their own discretion --- as I do not have the time nor inclination to check out all of them" (April 5, 2009 10:47 PM)

7. Anonymous said... "Factnet = CIA Operation... information on this is on this link... http://www.spirituallysmart.com/factnet.html" (April 6, 2009 8:44 AM)

8. Anonymous said... "PACA and tonyalamonews is run by the same people involved in factnet. They have just taken on a new name... http://www.spirituallysmart.com/cults.html
there is far more to this and without serious research on how our Vatican govt. operates, you will be deceived by these people and groups who are bribed, threatened and coerced into helping to destroy bible believing Christians and Pastors.
www.inquisitionupdate.org
6 interviews all say there was NO abuse!" (April 6, 2009 8:48 AM)

9. N.S. said... "Actually (this is my opinion / your choices are your own) I would prefer that folks pay the "most" attention to CNN, MSNBC, etc. news coverage and/or to other professional investigator / reporter (Associated Press, etc) coverage of the Alamo case (s) - AND in regard to the other cases (responses have developed a singular focus here) noted... Why? Because photos and videos (complete with police raids and arrests depicted, etc) "do" speak "1,000 words" --- and any other site / orgainization "might" (I am not saying "does") have its own (for good or ill) agenda... I would have to "loosely" include FactNet in this latter category (at least until I explore the issue more; and this, only if I find the time...) --- since some such groups [i.e., The Cult Awareness Network?] "have" been known to change alliances [or to become infiltrated by (speaking in general terms here) "cult" members (not a good thing) and/or investigators (not a bad thing) of one type or another] over the course of time. It does behoove me to point out (in FactNet's favor?) that it is apparently (at least in some cases) a few folks associated "with" FactNet that have "supplied" some of the official news (CNN, etc.) coverage videos of the Alamo case (s) "to" You Tube" (April 6, 2009 10:08 AM)

10. Anonymous said... "It's a shame that people in this world are so blinded by the lies, slander and propaganda of the now vatican controlled news media. If you want to remain in a fantasy world of lies. Just turn on the Brain washing machine TV and believe that this is God talking to you. Very sad! Wake up America! You are being deceived!!! The whole world wandered after the beast (One World Government) Read the bible. repent and be saved it's only going to get a whole lot worse!" (April 6, 2009 10:42 AM)

11. Anonymous said... "Here's some you tube videos. Some of the few they haven't taken down to prove that there is NO abuse at the Alamo videos...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIL8OqNDg2A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NTLqAvIUFg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08prxPPyGqs
Children being legally kidnapped at machine gun point and stolen away from their loving, caring parents. Truly sad and discusting! how would you or others feel if this happened to you? What a horrible thing to do to children! This IS ABUSE! PProof these children were not abused! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGaF4GHlefc ... The ATROCITIES of CPS/DHS KIDNAPPING BY FORMER SENATOR NANCY SHCAFFER>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1HjVU-UIQU ... full videos of ALL 6 girls stolen from Alamo Ministries can be seen on www.inquisitionupdate.org ... This is what they don't want you to see!!! Because they are crooks and child stealers and this is happening all over the world. It's all about MONEY and destroying anyone who exposes the Vatican" (April 6, 2009 11:02 AM)

12. tony58 said... "The reason "they" are destroy Tony Alamo's Christian Ministry is because he is preaching the TRUTH about the anti-Christ!!!! The anti-Christ is the Vatican and the Pope's seat. The False Prophet is the "Priests" and "Preachers" and Satan gives them their power. And the Jesuits are his army!!!! LET THE CHRISTIAN PASTOR OUT OF JAIL!!!! and GIVE THE CHILDREN BACK TO THE PARENTS THAT LOVE THE AND ARE TRYING TO BRING THEM UP REAL CHRISTIANS!!!!! WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" (April 6, 2009 11:37 AM)

13. N.S. said... "Okedokee... I will (when I get a chance) check into some of the sites and videos that you are suggesting. But I will not allow any more forceful [skip the caps (internet shouting)], "condemning" (for lack of a better word) and/or unsubstantiated [re the Vatican, associated Media reports around this issue, etc.] allegations --- or other posts that I deem borderline to outright abusive [I do not appreciate rudeness here] in tone... Did you take the time to listen to "Let it Be?" Or to watch the great musicals posted up above? Either / or might (?) help you to calm down and get centered... Let's all keep this even toned and rational, okay? Thank You" (April 6, 2009 12:17 PM)

14. Anonymous said... "i don't even call them reporters! 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, THERE, even The Word of God tells us that!!!!!!!" (April 6, 2009 1:16 PM)

15. tony58 said... "N.S. ... Take time to read your Bible! Forget about the beatles!!! And, it's hard to be "toned and rational" when Children are suffering!!!!" (April 6, 2009 1:46 PM)

16. N.S. said... "tony58, Is there a list anywhere in regard to how much food, medicine or money Mr. Alamo has donated to hungry children, food pantries, homeless shelters, battered women's shelters, etc.? As I noted in an earlier post, Mr. Alamo's tax exempt status was not pulled (This was years ago and it might have been reinstated since...) until his "church holdings" had ACRUED [What does your personal savings account and /or list of assets look like?] around $50 MILLION [my turn] DOLLARS... which would sure relieve some of the suffering that was (then) and is (now) being experienced by the world's children... wouldn't it?" (April 6, 2009 2:01 PM)

17. tony58 said... "Jesus said; 6 ¶ Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you... 16 And he would fain have filled his belly with the husks that the swine did eat: and no man gave unto him" (April 6, 2009 2:18 PM)

18. Anonymous said... "I would like to see the videos of them stealing the children on here. You seem to have posted all the garbage lies available against Pastor Alamo. First it's child porn..oops! found none! then it's child abuse. All 6 girls stolen at gun point said no in those videos. How about the confesion interview with the former FBI Agent that was hired to assassinate Pastor Alamo? Please put up the videos of the kids being stolen right on the side of the road..hear them screaming for their mommies and daddy's.? If this doesn't break your heart then nothing will. How about the parents who are inn jail now because they won't turn over their other kids to the Nazi DHS? would you? there is also a letter from one of the mothers who's child is being abused in foster care. Where is that? Please don't further the government abuse on these parents and children and Pastor by putting up one sided garbage from the lying news media. They are told what to print and speak. News flash the major media IS controlled and most of it is garbage! lies and slander to deceive the zombies with who believe the lies. The truth is not allowed out to the media. But you are right take a look at the kids on the videos and these parents. And at least put up their videos!" (April 6, 2009 3:19 PM)

I am now posting (collectively) the following links [Copy & Paste into your address bar].

Please take time to watch all of the videos - if you are so inclined - and please respond (if so inclined) in respectful non-threatening tones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzarTSs_OO8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKV3ABhXWuw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEZpBIYqpEw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP_H9HvlMr4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtnwLQARexk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Uk7lB98KZc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMUrNdVsc7M
http://www.tonyalamonews.com
www.alamoministries.com
www.inquisitionupdate.org
www.spiritaullysmart.com
www.arcticbeacon.com
http://www.spirituallysmart.com/factnet.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIL8OqNDg2A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NTLqAvIUFg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08prxPPyGqs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGaF4GHlefc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1HjVU-UIQU
http://www.factnet.org

["Billy Joel-You May Be Right"; as submitted to You Tube by GlensterMusicKarafun on April 17, 2008; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA4_Or0IpBs]

Be well.

NS